RealTalk MS
RealTalk MS
Navigating multiple sclerosis is easier when you understand the science behind it. Join host Jon Strum each week as he translates complex MS research, treatment breakthroughs, and healthcare news into clear, accessible language. Whether you’re living with MS, caring for a loved one, or looking for answers, RealTalk MS connects you with top neuroscientists, advocates, and the information and insights that matter most to your MS journey.
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Aug. 4, 2025

Episode 414: Finding Peace in the Midst of Uncertainty with Andrea Arzt, LCSW, MSCS

Episode 414: Finding Peace in the Midst of Uncertainty with Andrea Arzt, LCSW, MSCS
RealTalk MS
Episode 414: Finding Peace in the Midst of Uncertainty with Andrea Arzt, LCSW, MSCS
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Season 8 Living With MS Mental Health

Living with MS has always meant living with uncertainty. Left unchecked, that uncertainty can lead to anxiety, which can make your MS symptoms feel worse.

Andrea Arzt

This week, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Andrea Arzt, joins me to share tips and strategies for finding peace in the midst of uncertainty.

You'll also meet the CEO of the MS International Federation, Dr. Lydia Makaroff.

And you'll hear how artist Gordon Keith is combining his art with philanthropy in support of MS Canada.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

This Week: Finding peace during uncertain times :22

Dr. Lydia Makaroff discusses the work that the MS International Federation is involved in on behalf of the global MS community :58

Gordon Keith discusses his life as an artist and how he's using his art to raise funds for MS Canada 10:43

Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Andrea Arzt, offers strategies for finding peace of mind while facing uncertainty 21:40

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Next Week: It's all about the money! 32:32

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RealTalk MS Episode 414
Guests: Dr. Lydia Makaroff, Gordon Keith, and Andrea Arzt